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Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode, as I discussed within the 700th episode, is deviating from simply bodily well being and wellness, so that could be a element right here and delving a bit bit into the monetary facet of wellness as nicely. This episode is all about how we’re all traders, and The New Millionaire’s Playbook. And I’m right here with my buddy Gordy Bal, who’s a really heart-centered entrepreneur. He’s an investor and a visionary chief on this house. And he’s the creator of the brand new e book, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, which is, I beloved this e book, and I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. He’s the founder as nicely of the Aware Thought Revolution, which consists of a enterprise capital fund and a world-class advertising and marketing company, which invests in entrepreneurs and organizations dedicated to bettering humanity. And thru these organizations, he spearheaded the transformation of early startups into billion-dollar powerhouses. And we go deep on this episode about numerous the internal and thought-based elements of investing in entrepreneurship and monetary success. So, I do know this can be a little little bit of a brand new matter, however he offers numerous nice methods on this episode and definitely additionally in his e book. So, let’s be part of Gordy. Gordy, it’s such an honor to have you ever right here. Thanks for becoming a member of us.

Gordy: Completely my pleasure.

Katie: Effectively, I’m very excited to leap in and chat with you immediately. I opened the door just lately to clarify that I used to be gonna be speaking about matters past simply bodily well being as a result of I do suppose our psychological well being, our non secular well being, our monetary well being are all very priceless elements of well being and wellness. And I’m so excited to get to try this with you immediately, particularly. For individuals who aren’t acquainted, I’m gonna, after all, hyperlink to your new e book, which I beloved, within the present notes at wellnessmama.com. However I do know that there was fairly the private journey right here as nicely. So, for background, I might love should you might share a bit little bit of your private journey and what led to the creation of this e book.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I suppose I’ll begin, you already know as, as a baby of immigrant mother and father who moved from India to Canada with $20. They have been first technology, and so they labored their asses off to actually create a life that they thought could be optimum for us. However rising up in that family, there was fairly a little bit of rigidity and battle and strife. And as a baby, the that means I made out of that was that, oh, it should be as a result of we don’t have some huge cash. So, I instantly took on this function of, like, nicely, I’m going to make as a lot cash as humanly attainable and remedy not solely the issues at residence however remedy all the issues on the planet. And so, I acquired actually good at entrepreneurial expertise. I developed them fairly early on. And being a baby of the web, I realized the right way to make cash on-line. And by the point I used to be in highschool, I used to be doing internet affiliate marketing and producing tens of hundreds of {dollars} a month. And so, my checking account was rising. And nothing was actually bettering or altering as I assumed it could. And so, you already know, issues, issues have been, have been type of like, you already know, onerous. And, and I used to be like, nicely, I assumed if I made some huge cash, issues would get higher, however I nonetheless didn’t have any solutions. After which, so I’m like, okay, nicely, I’ll nonetheless go to school.

So, I went and acquired a four-year diploma in three years trigger I’ve all the time been like this hacker type of like, how do I type of, you already know, do issues sooner, cheaper, smarter, simpler, you already know, how entrepreneurs do. So, I acquired my four-year diploma in three years whereas launching extra companies on-line, and I ended up constructing this, you already know, and you already know, on Wall Wtreet, they’ve like high-frequency buying and selling for shares. I did that however for internet marketing. So, I constructed like this site visitors platform that was shopping for and promoting advertisements, and it was making like an insane amount of cash. However I awoke at some point in deep existential dread. I felt like I’ve extra money than I do know what to do with. You recognize, my household life is there’s nonetheless there’s nonetheless like, you already know, strife and battle and stress. It’s not all rainbows and unicorns. And on the time, this historic mystic poet by the title of Biggie Smalls, he had this tune Mo Cash, Mo Issues. And I felt like I used to be dwelling that as a result of I used to be spiritually bankrupt, although I had a giant checking account.

And in order that’s once I began actually type of asking deeper questions of, like, wait, like, what is that this recreation I’m taking part in? How does the world really work? Why is it that there’s some individuals who have a lot cash and are capable of purchase and do something they need, and simply down the identical avenue, there’s individuals that may’t even purchase meals and don’t even have footwear to put on? And the way does the federal government work? How does the healthcare system work? How does training system work? And so, I began type of deconstructing numerous these establishments of energy solely to appreciate and are available to this conclusion that the sport is rigged. Like we’re all taking part in this recreation the place a choose few profit at the price of all people else and the planet. And in order that’s type of like, I’d say, the origin story of, you already know, what acquired me to begin asking greater questions and understanding how the world works.

However what I’ll say to cap that story off is that solely led to extra questions. As a result of once I noticed that the sport was rigged, as like, nicely, what’s the purpose of amassing a lot cash and energy. What’s the actual recreation being performed? And that’s once I actually dove deep into extra of the existential questions of, like, who am I? What’s my function? What’s the nature of actuality? How does actuality really get rendered? And what’s human consciousness? And in order that has been my final, I’d say, nearly 15-year journey actually diving deep into myself. So yeah, that’s the origin story.

Katie: I find it irresistible. And I might like to delve into a few of the stuff you write about within the e book as a result of I do suppose this is applicable to everybody. And I believe proper now we’re seeing so many mothers coming into the enterprise world, whether or not or not it’s by way of proudly owning their very own companies, by way of investing, by way of micro companies. There’s so many choices, such as you mentioned, with the daybreak of the web, actually every part is at our fingertips. That doesn’t make it any simpler to leap in should you’ve by no means performed it earlier than. However I really like that you simply introduced within the ethos of kind of your non secular element as a result of I believe that could be a big lacking piece that’s important after we’re speaking about really acutely aware change, which I do know is a giant factor for you and for me as nicely. And my mission right here with Wellness Mama has all the time been to like and serve mothers and assist individuals ask higher questions. And I actually consider that with some framework and logistical assist in place, after we assist and serve individuals, the financial half nearly effortlessly works itself out if now we have that piece dialed in. So, I really like that you’ve that woven by way of all of the message of your complete e book.

However I might love to begin delving into a few of the pillars that you simply speak about within the e book as a result of I really feel like this can be a considerably new matter, presumably for lots of the individuals listening. And also you give a lot absolute superb knowledge within the e book. So, are you able to possibly stroll us by way of the excessive degree of a few of the pillars that you simply convey up within the e book?

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, the very first thing, so chat, so the important thing, the primary, so I speak about seven keys in direction of freedom, function, and abundance. And the primary key’s round unplugging from the matrix. So, I put forth this notion of the matrix in, in, in a brand new definition the place I, I, I consult with it as a simulated actuality that’s projected from an influence system that’s globally entrenched and operates with unconscious ideas. And one of many methods wherein that’s proliferated is thru social media and social media algorithms. And so, I additionally in, in that key, I speak about understanding this idea that Steve Jobs coined, which is the fact distortion area. So, consider the fact distortion area because the film display wherein your life and your actuality will get performed.

Now, for many of us, that what’s being projected on that film display is from exterior inputs, whether or not that’s conditioning from our mother and father, whether or not it’s from the college system, whether or not it’s from mainstream media. And so, when that’s occurring, the film that’s being projected on that actuality distortion area referred to as our life or a actuality is externally pushed. And so, the large change is to appreciate that we will really interface with the fact distortion area and create our personal actuality. And the best way wherein to do that is thru our ideas as a result of I speak about how our ideas are probably the most highly effective forex now we have to speculate.

A research out of Stanford confirmed that now we have between 40 and 60,000 ideas per day. And most of these ideas we’re unconscious of. And so these, and so after we are capable of grow to be acutely aware of the ideas that we’re having, we’re capable of then depict and create the fact we would like as a result of ideas grow to be actuality. However after we’re not acutely aware of it, we’re unconsciously kind of taking part in out this actuality that’s externally curated for us. In order that’s type of the primary idea that I, and the primary key, I dive into.

After which, as soon as we unplug from the matrix, then I speak about the way it’s completely important, particularly immediately and now, to find our true function. Why are we really right here? And, and so I walked by way of a framework, a five-step framework on the right way to really get clear in your life function. And a part of that additionally, like a few of this sounds esoteric, however I stroll by way of pragmatic and sensible steps to get there. And a part of it’s to truly begin connecting together with your soul. And most of us have been so disconnected from our soul. So, once I’m speaking to, you already know, whether or not it’s entrepreneurs or even when it’s mothers and, and the mother neighborhood is so big for me too. My, my spouse, who, you already know, you’ve gotten to satisfy, Sukhi, now we have three children, and I’ve seen simply how a lot she has devoted her life to the elevating of youngsters. And now I’m watching her transfer into again into, like, kind of exterior of mother mode, however into creator world. And so, serving to help her and maintain house for her to find her function. It’s been so profound and magical to see that. And so, I believe, particularly with, you already know, the proliferation of synthetic intelligence and, and I imply, you’ve seen the ability of, of AI and even simply ChatGPT, like, if we’re not connecting to the deeper side of ourself and most of our ideas are unconscious, it’s not lengthy earlier than we’re gonna be working for our AI overlords. So, because of this it’s so essential to find our function. So, I walked by way of that in key two.

After which, key three, I consult with you as measure your MEPS. So, MEPS stands for, it’s 4 KPIs that I speak about. MEPS stands for psychological, emotional, bodily, and non secular well-being. And what’s actually cool now’s that now we have a lot entry to information that we will use to start to quantify our well-being. We are able to really start to grasp and measure our psychological well-being, our emotional well-being, our bodily well-being, and even our non secular well-being. And so, I stroll by way of pragmatic and sensible methods on how we will start to make use of these because the foundational items to then transfer on to what I, the subsequent key’s, you already know, uncover your mission to MARS.

And the MARS that I’m speaking about just isn’t what, you already know, Elon Musk is constructing rockets to go to a different planet. I consult with MARS as a number of automated income streams. And I believe a part of after we, as soon as we’ve unplugged from the matrix, we’ve found our function and now we’re starting to measure our MEPS, now we will use these items to start to design abundance producing methods. And that is the place we get to make use of automation and AI to assist help us. After which I additionally speak about how we will really flip the change on social media. And as a substitute of it being one thing that harvests our consideration, we will really use it and use its energy to do easy issues like market analysis, construct neighborhood, serve individuals at massive, and see what they want and need.

So, after which after that, I get into some extra, I’d say, extra of the non secular facet of issues. I get into like the right way to construct resilience, relationships, and assets. After which, you already know, by the top of it, I begin shifting into this observe that I’ve developed, and I’m educating round engineering synchronicities. As a result of I’ve been learning the artwork and science of manifesting. You keep in mind when The Secret got here out and the legislation of attraction and like, it was, that was actually cool, however as a result of for me, I additionally have to be intellectually stimulated, and I actually need to grasp the science and the underpinnings of it, I started to check that and actually perceive how electromagnetic frequencies work, how our cells have electrical exercise, how the frequency of our cells can really attract and herald that which we both unconsciously or consciously need. So, I type of bridge that. So, I begin pragmatic and sensible, after which by the top of the e book, we’re getting a bit bizarre.

Katie: I really like that. My journey has definitely taken me into that realm as nicely in the previous couple of years, and I’ve come to appreciate simply how actually pivotal that’s to so many elements of our lives. This piece that I used to not take note of in any respect has now grow to be so core to a lot of what I do. However I might like to hone in on a few stuff you talked about. There’s clearly extra within the e book than we will unpack on this one episode, however you talked about so many superb issues, and I need to go deeper on a few them.

I really like, particularly you talked in regards to the energy of ideas. This was big for me. Truly, even in my kind of trauma restoration journey, I didn’t understand till I began auditing my ideas, such as you mentioned, what number of of them have been detrimental. And I actually consider that our unconscious works to reply the questions we give it. But when we give it questions that we really don’t need the solutions to, it’s going to provide us solutions we don’t need. And so, as a really surface-level instance, once I would say issues like, why is it so onerous to drop some weight? Why I do that? Why is that this so onerous? It will reply these questions, and it could be like, oh, nicely, you’ve gotten six children, you’ve gotten thyroid points, you, blah, blah, blah. And once I realized to begin listening to that internal converse of my ideas and asking myself higher questions, I began getting dramatically higher solutions. And I do know that that’s only a very small instance, however I might love so that you can delve a bit deeper into what you speak about in listening to our ideas and beginning to curate them to kind of transfer in a extra constructive course for us.

Gordy: Yeah, nicely, I really like the truth that you simply talked about a thought audit. I don’t even, I didn’t even know that you simply try this, however that’s what I speak about as nicely, is we have to audit our ideas. And one of many workouts that I do even for myself, and I do once I’m facilitating for a bunch of entrepreneurs, is I’ll simply have them freestyle their total thoughts for an hour. And so they’ll simply journal what the internal dialogue is saying. And it once they see and mirror again what the thoughts is doing, it’s alarming as a result of, for probably the most half, this can be very disempowering. And it’s it’s always acquired this voice of such as you mentioned, it’s a it’s framed in a why query. And and a part of the programming of our thoughts, after we’re asking why questions, what it’s doing is it’s really creating an ineffective course of as a result of while you ask the query, why can’t I drop some weight, what you’re doing to your individual system is you’re making a protection, it’s like now I’ve to defend myself towards this query of why. And so, while you, however while you ask a what or how query, such as you mentioned, now you’re asking a query, it’s like, what do I must do to drop some weight? Or what do I must do to generate abundance? How can I generate abundance? There’s no emotional set off to it. Now you’re simply, you’re asking a query to excavate solution-oriented course of. And in order that’s a giant piece as nicely.

One other one which like a right away hack that I all the time speak about is simply in any given second, you possibly can pause and say, am I having my ideas? Or are my ideas having me? And normally, individuals will discover that our ideas are having us there. It’s the fixed programming and conditioning that’s simply shifting and always going. There’s this different train that’s actually cool {that a} good buddy of mine taught me. It’s referred to as sportscaster. So, what you’ll do is you’ll sit in a dyad. So, we’ll sit throughout from one another like this. And for 5 minutes straight, we’ll really, as if we’re a sportscaster, we’ll sportscast our ideas out loud and verbalize them. So, it could sound one thing like this: Okay, so now I’m sitting right here throughout from Katie, we’re doing a Wellness Mama podcast. I’m taking a look at myself within the digicam. Do I look okay? Okay, let me suppose that that’s this working? Are individuals gonna like this podcast? Is the content material good? What are we really gonna speak about? How do we alter individuals’s lives? Okay, oh, did I brush my enamel with the suitable toothpaste immediately? Oh, attention-grabbing, why did I simply take into consideration that? So, you see prefer it simply goes loopy after which comparable. However while you’re doing that with any person, and so they’re witnessing it, they’re serving to you extract numerous the programming and conditioning. And in order that’s one other cool train.

However I believe what’s most enjoyable for me, and like the place I’m growing a physique of labor, is round this notion that our ideas are probably the most highly effective forex for us to speculate. As a result of we’re investing our ideas. Like I mentioned, 40 to 60,000 ideas a day. That implies that during the last 17 days, you’ve invested 1,000,000 ideas. The place did you make investments these million ideas? What was the ROI on these ideas? The place are you gonna make investments your subsequent million ideas? And what, how are you going to make use of these ideas to design the lifetime of your desires? In order that’s one thing that I’ve been actually excited to play with as a result of think about should you had like a Fitbit on your ideas. And you may have like this means to measure the standard of your ideas, nicely, we’re getting there quickly sufficient. And I believe the extra we’re in a position to try this, that’s what’s going to create this, you already know, evolution of human consciousness the place we do awaken and we do transcend the programming and conditioning that’s been there for us. As a result of as you already know, for after we’re children from zero to eight, we’re in a theta state and we’re principally simply absorbing our total world and getting programmed. And so even now in our, you already know, thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties, we’re simply taking part in out the zero to eight. From zero to eight is what we’re taking part in out as adults. And so, half, such as you mentioned, a part of the trauma work goes again into these time and areas and therapeutic that which nonetheless must be healed and built-in.

So, yeah, that’s and even my, you already know, our group is, so, okay, I’ll share this actually profound, highly effective story. I shared within the e book, however that is the pivotal story. After I was doing the internet marketing stuff, we had a day in 2007, we had a record-breaking day the place we did over six figures in at some point. And what I went and did is I went and bought the area title ctr.com. For these of you who don’t know, in internet marketing, CTR stands for click-through price. And so, it’s a hit metric that in case your click-through price is increased, then your marketing campaign will likely be performing higher. And so, I used to be intelligent, and I needed to construct a know-how platform that may auto-optimize the click-through price for our shoppers and advertisers. Quick ahead to 2015, I used to be deep inside a meditation, and I acquired such a transparent, highly effective message, which was, it went like this, we don’t want a better click-through price. What we’d like is a acutely aware thought revolution. And my complete physique began shaking with this like profound fact. And from that second, that’s how now my, you already know, my complete mission in life is to measurably speed up the evolution of human consciousness, beginning with my very own. And in order that’s why the final 10 years, that’s what I’ve been engaged on and proceed to work on. And as you already know, the extra of the onion layers you peel, the extra you understand there’s extra to proceed peeling.

Katie: I really like that story. And also you additionally use the phrases engineering synchronicities. And I might love to speak about doing this kind of deliberately as a result of I’ve seen the sample in my very own life that when I’m most in a state of unconditional love and authenticity, I not less than discover synchronicities way more. And possibly will probably be useful so that you can outline that phrase for individuals who aren’t tremendous clear on what it means. However even I just lately had an expertise at a convention the place I used to be simply in that state of type of receptivity and authenticity. And it was like each dialog occurred precisely completely and performed out precisely what the individuals I hoped to attach with, with the concepts I used to be attempting to study. All the things simply fell into place so superbly that I used to be for 2 weeks after on this simply absolute gratitude excessive. And so, I might love so that you can discuss extra about engineering synchronicities and clarify what meaning.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I’ve come to appreciate that we’re the universe experiencing and increasing itself by way of us. So, every one in every of us are a distinct vantage level of the universe itself experiencing and increasing itself. So, if we need to have and herald and manifest and have a synchronicity inside our life, we will interface with the universe as a result of we’re the universe to do that. Effectively, there’s, you already know, we will speak about kind of the paranormal, legendary elements of it, that are cool and attention-grabbing, however they’re not very sensible and pragmatic. So for me, I needed to seek out the pragmatic and sensible and science-based ways in which I can use my bodily physique and my inner system to engineer synchronicities, which I consider are the biofeedback indicators from the universe telling you that you’re now in a state of manifesting.

So what occurs, what I’ve found is that after we’re in emotional states which can be of decrease frequencies, so after we’re in worry or greed or lack, then what we’re unconsciously signaling to the universe is that that’s the frequency that we’re vibrating at. So, as a result of we’re like a magnet, that’s what we’re gonna proceed to perpetuate in our life. And that’s why when numerous us typically are in a sufferer mode, we type of keep there as a result of that’s what we’re drawing in. However after we’re capable of elevate our emotional states and embody, like gratitude is among the highest frequency, vibrational frequency states that you may be in. And after we’re in that state, then we’re capable of really design and engineer with the universe to begin bringing in states of actuality that we actually want that’s really related to our soul that’s deeper than some superficial like, oh, I would like hundreds of thousands of {dollars} tomorrow.

And so, one of many issues that I labored on to develop is that this course of, I name it the MAGIC meditation. And so, the magic stands for the M is for magnetize. The A is for alchemize. The G is for generate. The I is to encourage and the C is to clear. And so, it’s a seven-minute meditation, and it’s nearly like an activation. It’s to an exquisite soundtrack. And so, what we’re doing is we’re really activating the internal magnetic frequencies of our physique. After which we’re, so we’re, we’re bringing in and we’re altering our state to herald all that which we actually want. And now what occurs although, is we all the time get like, we talked about, there’s that just about like that self-sabotage internal voice that’s all the time there, the, the unconscious and unconscious. So, after we’re magnetizing and bringing in, we’re additionally, our unconscious can be bringing within the issues that don’t serve us. And in order that’s why the A for alchemize is we, I there’s this course of that takes a couple of minute the place as soon as we convey every part in, we alchemize and transmute utilizing an power system in our physique, all of the detrimental power into constructive power. After which we transfer up, and we’re really shifting.

So, the entire objective within the system is you’re shifting up the physique. You’re shifting into the totally different power methods or in historic wisdoms, they name them the chakras. And so, after which from after you alchemize, you progress as much as the guts. And what we do is we spend a while to generate the elevated feelings of gratitude, as if that which you already, that which you want has already occurred. As a result of while you try this, you are actually signaling to the universe, which you’re the universe, you’re already signaling that you simply’re not in lack. And since you’re not in lack and also you’re already experiencing the elevated feelings of getting that which you need, you open up the sector and also you grow to be, such as you magnetize it much more and also you convey it in.

After which we transfer as much as the throat chakra, which is, after which we transfer to the I, which is to encourage. And encourage comes from the Latin phrase of inspirare, which was to talk fact to. And they’d give that phrase to divine beings in historic occasions. And so, we do that, this field respiratory train the place then you definitely exhale out for 4 seconds, you make an auditory sound to place again into the universe that, so that you herald, you magnetize, you transmute, you generate, you encourage out. After which the final step is the C, which is obvious. And that is the place we transfer as much as, you already know, the pineal gland, the third eye, you convey our consciousness there. After which we do a deep re-oxygenation course of and deep inhales and exhales.

And so, this complete factor solely takes seven minutes. You will get entry to it at new millionairesplaybook.com without cost. And, um, and while you do that, inside that day, you’ll begin seeing synchronicity. So, I, I, you already know, I noticed you at, um, Dave Asprey’s biohacking convention, and I facilitated this course of for a bunch of individuals and, and it was to set the stage for that weekend for them. And it was superb. It will get individuals would come as much as me and be like, oh my God, you received’t consider what simply occurred. I used to be, I used to be attempting to unravel this downside. And after we did this seven-minute meditation, impulsively, the issue routinely acquired solved. And, oh, I simply met this person who I’ve been seeking to meet. So, it’s simply, it’s loopy. And, and what’s superb is like, you already know, you don’t should put in that a lot effort. I believe that’s a part of the phantasm that we’ve fallen for is that life must be onerous, and now we have to place a lot effort, however that’s solely as a result of we’re taking part in three-dimensionally. After we begin like connecting to our soul, which operates multi-dimensionally, it operates exterior of this bodily realm. That’s when you possibly can hack the system, and you may like hack the matrix, and you may like, you already know, play a recreation that’s a bit bit totally different.

And that’s why I discuss in regards to the new millionaire. The brand new millionaire isn’t any person who’s chasing hundreds of thousands of {dollars}. The brand new millionaire is any person who lives a life to positively influence hundreds of thousands of individuals, beginning with their very own. And the way do they try this? Once more, they uncover their function. They unplug from the matrix. They start to measure their MAPS, after which they uncover how they will serve hundreds of thousands of individuals, which then, such as you mentioned originally of this, that’s how they generate abundance. The abundance technology turns into a byproduct of them serving hundreds of thousands of individuals, having an intention to serve hundreds of thousands. And also you don’t, and that doesn’t imply it’s a must to contact hundreds of thousands of individuals. You’ll be able to influence, you already know, 100 individuals or a thousand individuals, however the, the ripple impact of that may, will proliferate. After which, you already know, by way of straight or not directly, you’ll positively influence hundreds of thousands of individuals. And that’s the brand new millionaire. And that’s the subsequent technology. That’s, that’s the place millennials, Gen Z are shifting to as a result of they know the outdated recreation is damaged. The outdated millionaire recreation is damaged. Look the place we’re.

And that’s why I really like the work you’re doing, too, as a result of a part of what I found is the outdated recreation was, was very masculine. And it was a really like penetrative, like, I acquired a hoard and management and get as a lot as attainable. However the brand new recreation, it’s about balancing the taking part in area. It’s about honoring the divine female. And that’s why I’m like such a giant fan of, you already know, what you’re doing for mothers as a result of we, I imply, Mom Earth is a mother.

Katie: I find it irresistible. And I do know you’ve gotten a lot extra that you simply cowl within the e book in addition to in your web site. So, I’ll put each of these hyperlinks within the present notes for all of you guys listening. However I really like that we acquired to go in a few of these instructions on this episode, and we’re going to get to do one other quick episode as nicely. So that you guys preserve an eye fixed out for that one. However Gordy, it’s all the time a pleasure. Thanks a lot. This has been a lot enjoyable.

Gordy: Yeah, no downside. Thanks a lot.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode.

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