Utada: Are you at the moment most centered on pursuing?
Kojima: Though particle physics, often known as the usual mannequin, has a concept, it will possibly solely clarify about 5% of the mass and power of the universe. The truth is, about 26% of the universe’s mass and power is regarded as darkish matter, with the remaining 70% being darkish power. No matter darkish power, we all know that darkish matter exists, however we do not know what it’s. I am at the moment seeking to perceive its true nature.
Utada: Darkish power is…
Kojima: We all know little or no about it.
Tanaka: You can say that it’s a title given nearly randomly.
Utada: Now, it does not imply “darkish” right here, it means “not figuring out” or “unknown.”
Tanaka: I do not know something about darkish power. Its title comes from the universe increasing. Nevertheless, we imagine that darkish matter exists as a result of it may be defined by gravity. Nevertheless it’s exhausting to seek out. We spend plenty of time doing experiments as a result of we are attempting to measure one thing after we do not know what it’s.
Utada: It is like proof that one thing exists by the absence of one thing else.
Kojima: Sure, that is proper.
Utada: It is like making an attempt to show the existence of an invisible man. There are solely 9 individuals there, however the room with a capability of 10 is packed. Or there have been 10 individuals within the room, and there have been traces of 11 individuals from there.
Tanaka Sure, sure, that is the concept!
It is the query of whether or not it is just like one thing else or changing one relationship with one other. Utada says they place explicit significance on this act. Which means that by totally using the data and expertise they’ve cultivated over time and phrases and symbols derived from their instinct, they recurrently flip what exists solely in their very own minds into intelligent metaphors. They then enthusiastically perform the duty of speaking these to others.

